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Time to Put it To Use

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Re: Time to Put it To Use

Postby mreisz » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:30 pm

Thanks for the kind words, KG. Ever since I first heard Tenacious D I have secretly wanted to know someone named "KG." Sorry if it doesn't work right without the "M" :)
The cool thing about it was I didn't sit down to write. I just sat down to play around with the dim7 shapes and arpeggios, and the key phrases of the song kind of wrote themselves. Last night I added the Em Am C D progression so the melody could go somewhere, but most of the "cool" melody lines sprang from just playing around. I think there's enough there to form the start of a decent length piece, but the main thing I wanted to do last night was get some ideas down so I could remember it later. It doesn't take me long to forget. My favorite thing is when I pull out something that I recorded an idea on, and I have no idea how I played it :) Maybe I ought to tab it out too.
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Re: Time to Put it To Use

Postby fiddlewood » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:21 pm

oooooo...tablature, now that's a novel idea! :D

I have to do this whenever I write a lead to anything. My brain seems to be full...every time I learn something new it pushes something else out...
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Re: Time to Put it To Use

Postby KGM » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:09 pm

Well technically it's KM. G is my middle name. So Mreizs's search for a KG must sadly continue. Close but no cigar.
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Re: Time to Put it To Use

Postby mreisz » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:28 pm

It's close enough that I can cross it off my bucket list. Thanks! Next up, paragliding off of Everest.
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Re: Time to Put it To Use

Postby KGM » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:46 pm

:lol:
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Re: Time to Put it To Use

Postby Oldhat » Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:47 pm

Mike that sounds like a really cool way to lead into "Somewhere Over the Rainbow".
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Re: Time to Put it To Use

Postby mreisz » Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:13 pm

That's amazing Jesse. You are psychic. I have a version of Somewhere over the Rainbow that I play in G (Mark Hanson did the original arrangement). As I was experimenting with the dim7s last week, I was playing with the arpeggios in the middle of the SOTR, but you are right... I could take that as an intro and place it right in front of the song and it would fit like a glove. At the current ending, I had worked up a kind of interlude that simply goes between the G2 and the F#dim7 a bit and I think it might even transition better. The only problem with it is I have always done SOTR as a solo piece, and the thing I did the other night was two tracks. I might need to grow another arm.
Good stuff, thanks!
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Re: Time to Put it To Use

Postby Oldhat » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:23 pm

haha, goes to show a lot of musicians "think alike".

I'd cut off the ending and do a bunch of quick descending arpeggios to create chaos over a few measures (this should really build up tension and angst)...kind of like falling into a bottomless pit and grasping for something to cling to to stop the free fall, then I'd go right into the song!

Pretty cool sound you have there using the Dim 7, very pretty chords...happy and sad at the same time....they could go either way and the listener is clueless until you get into an established melody.
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Re: Time to Put it To Use

Postby ozicaveman » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:01 pm

I have never really been a theory person - tend to do nearly everything by ear, - but now I've been steered to this theory section from the collaboration I guess I'd better put my hangups on hold and try to understand what it is about.
That's a great clip Mike - so that's how jazz guitarists get those amazing results! I'm not a guitarist but now I'm going to sit down and try to work this one out. Thanks for the push and the inspiration Mike.
There you go, dozens of posts discussing these things and I ignore them, I hear one good example of what you are talking about and you've got me! ;)
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Re: Time to Put it To Use

Postby mreisz » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:31 pm

Thanks Ozzie! As a bass guy, what might be of particular interest to you are the arpeggios that result from the dim7. You can play the arpeggios lots of different ways. I don't know that there is a preferred method, but I would guess it depends on what you are trying to do with it. Here's one website that had a couple shapes published:
http://justinguitar.com/en/AR-005-Dim7arp.php
In the above link, I do have a minor quibble about the "position 2." They show the G note (edit: note on the G string) being played with the index, and if you are walking the arpeggio, that doesn't work.... a middle finger works much better.

Of course the neat thing is, it's not rocket science. Just get a reference a half step down from the root and keep moving up 3 frets at a time and you are playing the arpeggio. FWIW, I did include the root note in many of the phrases.
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